Full Barotseland agreement of 1964
This Agreement is made this eighteenth day of May, 1964 between KENNETH DAVID KAUNDA, Prime Minister of Northern Rhodesia of the one part and SIR MWANAWINA LEWANIKA THE THIRD ,K.B.E., Litunga of Barotseland, acting on behalf of himself, his heirs and successors, his council, and the chiefs and people of Barotseland of the other party is signed by the Right Honourable Duncan Sandys, M.P Her Majesty’s principal secretary of state for common wealth relations and for the colonies, to signify the approval of her majesty’s government in the united kingdom of the arrangements entered into between the parties to this agreement and recorded therein.
Whereas it was proposed that the northern Rhodesia shall become an independent sovereign state to be known as the republic of Zambia.
And where as it is the wish of the government of northern Rhodesia and of the Litunga of Barotseland,his council and the chiefs and people of Barotseland that northern Rhodesia should proceed to independence as one country and that all its peoples should be one nation:
And where , as having regard to the fact that all treaties and other agreements subsisting between her majesty the queen of the United Kingdom of great Britain and northern Ireland and The Litunga of Barotseland will terminate when Northern Rhodesia becomes an independent sovereign republic and her majesty’s government in the United Kingdom will there upon cease to have any responsibility for the government of Rhodesia including Barotseland. It is the wish of the government of northern Rhodesia and of The Litunga of Barotseland to enter into arrangements concerning the position of Barotseland as part of the republic of Zambia to the place of the treaties and other agreements hitherto subsisting between Her Majesty the Queen and The Litunga of Barotseland:
And whereas on the sixteenth day of April,1964 a provisional agreement was concluded at Lusaka with purpose and it is the desire of the government of northern Rhodesia and The Litunga, acting after consultation with his council to conclude a permanent agreement with this purpose:
NOW THIS AGREEMENT WITNESSETH and it is hereby agreed between the said Kenneth David Kaunda, Prime Minister of Northern Rhodesia, on behalf of the government of Northern Rhodesia and the said Sir Mwanawina Lewanika the Third, K.B.E., Litunga of Barotseland on behalf of himself, his heirs and successors ,his Council and the chiefs and the people of Barotseland as follows:-
1. Citation and commencement
This agreement may be cited as the Barotseland Agreement 1964 and shall come into force on the day on which Northern Rhodesia, including Barotseland, becomes the independent sovereign Republic of Zambia.
2. The Constitution of Zambia
The constitution of the republic of Zambia shall include the provisions agreed upon for the inclusion herein at the constitutional conference held in London in May, 1964 relating to:-
(a) the protection of human rights and fundamental freedoms of the individual;
(b) the judiciary; and
(c) the public service
and those provisions shall have full force and effect in Barotseland.
3. Administration of Justice
(1) Subject to the provisions of this Agreement, the people of Barotseland shall be accorded the same rights of access to the high court of the republic of Zambia as are accorded to other citizens of the Republic under the laws for the time being in force in the Republic and a judge or judges of the high court selected from among the judges who normally sit in Lusaka shall regularly proceed on circuit in Barotseland at each intervals as the due administration of justice may require.
(2) The people of Barotseland shall be accorded the same rights of appeal from the decisions of the courts of the Republic of Zambia as are accorded to other citizens of the Republic under the laws for the time being in force in the Republic.
4. The Litunga and His Council
(1) The government of the republic of Zambia will accord recognition as such to the person who is for the time The Litunga of Barotseland under the customary law of Barotseland.
(2) The Litunga of Barotseland, acting after consultation with his Council as constituted for the time being under the customary law of Barotseland shall be the principal local authority for the government and administration of Barotseland.
(3) The Litunga of Barotseland, acting after consultation with his Council, shall be authorised and empowered to make laws for Barotseland in relation to the following matters, that is to say-
(a) The Litungaship;
(b) The authority at present known as the Barotse Native Government (which shall hereafter be known as the Barotse Government);
(c) The authorities at present known as Barotse Native Authorities;
(d) The courts at present known as Barotse Native Courts;
(e) The status of the members of the Litunga’s Council;
(f) matters relating to local government;
(g) land;
(h) forests;
(i) traditional and customary matters relating to Barotseland alone;
(j) fishing;
(k) control of hunting;
(l) game preservation;
(m) control of bush fires;
(n) the institution at present known as the Barotse native treasury;
(o) the supply of beer;
(p) reservation of trees for canoes;
(q) local taxation and matters relating thereto; and
(r) Barotse local festivals.
5. Land
(1) In relation to land in Barotseland the arrangements set out in the annex hereto shall have effect.
(2) In particular, the Litunga of Barotseland and his Council shall continue to have the powers hitherto enjoyed by them in respect of land matters under customary law and practice.
(3) The courts at present known as the Barotse Native Courts shall have original jurisdiction(to the exclusion of any other court in the republic of Zambia)in respect of matters concerning rights over or interests in land in Barotseland to the extent that those matters are governed by the customary law of Barotseland:
Provided that nothing in this paragraph shall be construed as limiting the jurisdiction and powers of the High Court of the Republic of Zambia in relation to writs or orders of the kind at present known as prerogative of writs or orders.
(4) Save with the leave of the court at present known as the Saa- Sikalo Kuta, no appeal shall lie from any decision of the courts at present known as the Barotse Native Courts given in exercise of the jurisdiction referred to in paragraph (3) of this article to the High Court of the Republic of Zambia.
6. Civil Servants
All public officers of the Government the Republic of Zambia who may from time to time be situated in Barotseland shall be officers serving on permanent and pensionable terms.
7. Financial Responsibility
The Government of the Republic of Zambia shall have the same general responsibility for providing financial support for the administration and economic development of Barotseland as it has for other parts of the Republic and shall ensure that, in discharge of this responsibility, Barotseland is treated fairly and equitably in relation to other parts of the Republic.
8. Implementation
The Government of the Republic of Zambia shall take such steps as may be necessary to ensure that the laws for the time being in force in the Republic are not inconsistent with the provisions of this Agreement.
9. Interpretation
Any question concerning the interpretation of this Agreement may be referred by the Government of the Republic of Zambia to the High Court of the Republic for consideration (in which case the opinion thereon of the Court shall be communicated to that Government and to the Litunga of Barotseland and his Council) and any such question shall be so referred if the Litunga, acting after consultation with his Council, so requests.
10. Revocation
The herein before recited Agreement of the sixteenth day of April, 1964 is hereby revoked.
136 Responses to Full Barotseland agreement of 1964
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Check point - April 2, 2012
08:56
ppl why cnt we gt xamplz 4rm nations tht 1nce sparated..?its nver a good thing.lets come 2gthr,agree on hw we’r goin 2 dvelop all parts of zambia 2gthr nd thn abolish ths aggrement tht ‘sucks’ ,
zaccheaus - April 2, 2012
08:43
@ Chivas
What is this list of names for? You are a munielo!
Mundia - January 9, 2012
15:16
You guys against the restoration of the BA go to hell. You can play around with your mothers’ clitorises and father’s testicles not the BA. We want independence you suckers. MINEMBA YAMINA!
Mundia - January 9, 2012
15:08
History has a way/tendency of repeating itself. Now that everyone is aware about the Agreement, let a commission of inquiry be instituted. Secondly,the chief witness, DR. Kaunda and his people should be given airtime on our National Television to enlighten society about the agreement. Let us not wait for him to proceed in the beyond before this very important issue is tackled.
My opinion is that, this is ONE ZAMBIA, ONE NATION. Western province has lagged behind so much, treated like a step child who has no right whatsoever. My comment is not because am Lozi, iv traveled around, but what you see back home, is really nothing to talk about.
Let the powers that be allow this issue to be discussed openly and objectively. All we want is that Western Province should be developed just like other Provinces Period!!!!.
Lubinda.
Lubinda Liwilu. - January 9, 2012
14:52
We realy need to pray for our country. this may look like a small issue but can be another Rwanda genocide. Im Tonga by tribe and a day to the elections when knocking off some two guys bypassed me and were disscusing politics and actualy one commented saying “Tongas cannot rule this country ninshi wat type of a country can it be some tribes are useless” this comment really pricked me deep and i understand why people act on impulse. if i had any thing on me….. Please lets not bellitle any tribe we are all made in the image of Jehovah God. God bless Zambia.
Chimuka Naluube - January 2, 2012
20:21
Chipanta you seem not to know the contents of the agreement, why it was formulated, who it favours and how disadvantaging it puts the land in question for developmental purposes.Just to give you a few hints: Most of the teachers in bulozi are permanent which the agreement favours, The Natural resources has remain for Traditional exploit, Independence was achieved in 1964, The litunga is the principle local authority for the government etc. Tell me which part of the agreement favours Balotseland to be an independent state. The only thing needed to be done is to see which part of the agreement still need to be enforced.
Lungu - December 31, 2011
06:55
This issue is so sensitive, becarefull what you say and propels that which you say. Read the document and make a fair contribution. Stop attacking or insulting anyone for this will not help anyone in Zambia. It is true that WP is one of the least developed provinces. Do you that one of the reasons why Northern Rhodesia left the federation of Rhodesia and Nyasaland whose capital was salisbury was the issue of development and its distribution. much of the develpment was concentrated in Southern Rhodesia (Zimbabwe). Many people in Zambia would not want to c this separation really. Let develpment and distribution of Zambia’s resources be fairly shared and distributed and you will not c this separation thing coming. However, I would love to c that this BR agreement saga is well solved and we leave as one nation. look in some families you find names of children like Inonge, Kaunda, Banda, Mulenga and you want to divide this family??? My dear Fellow Zambians, work for peace, unity and fairness at all times. I should think one of the characteristics in striving on the path of being a perfect human being is to be objective and think beyond your tribe, region and province.
Cholwe - December 29, 2011
20:11
though it was agreed that it shall became one nation,but the distribution of worth isn’t equity as it was agreed.it needs to handle carefully.go Zambia go………man miyo.
miyo - December 27, 2011
20:40
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Chivas - December 26, 2011
15:23
There is no better way to resolve the barotse land agreement saga than to decentralise government.Local authorities country wide need to be empowered to administer development in their areas.
Let the Litunga, as it were, be activily be instrumental in developmental issues concerning western province.Let funds and investments meant for developing western province be handled by the local authorities with the approval of central gov’t.
We are one zambia and one nation.
REFLECTIONS PHIRI - December 22, 2011
15:33
And where as it is the wish of the government of northern Rhodesia and of the Litunga of Barotseland,his council and the chiefs and people of Barotseland that northern Rhodesia should proceed to independence as one country and that all its peoples should be one nation.I quote from the document.And so it is !Lets go Zambia lets go!
Lawrence - November 3, 2011
16:25
These guys have been neglected. Do something about it!!
Onbehalfof the poor people/Words of Wisdom/ and other names on here - October 15, 2011
13:28
@Eddie Kaks – November 14, 2010
11:18 am
Spot on. There is no sign of unity what’s so ever. Tribalism seems to have escalated……. and if everyone is not careful we’ll end up with a nasty conflict with tribal warfares and not just one.
With regards to the people of Barotseland wanting Independence. One must understand that there are many reasons and factors/elements that have lead them to ask for the agreement to be honoured. This cannot be brushed up under the carpet anymore. Every Zambian now knows about the Barotseland Agreement, which was kept as a secret for many years and ignored.
Political leaders past and present should resolve this issue with great urgency and not put this on the shelf to rest.
The Barosteland agreement is to be honoured if valid and legitimate
A team of Lawyers are to be called upon to verify the agreement if people are in doubt
Sata said it’s legit and promised to honour it so he cannot go back on his word
Basically what is going on with this???
Who would like to see Zambia split on a serious note, c’mon; Zambia has been one nation since 1964. But like other countries in the world there comes a time when tribes want to separate because of being neglected or they found they culture or tradition……. Whatever the case may be. Why do people divorce? If the people of Barotseland want independence then I would give it to them and work with them.
Tribal name calling and insulting will only escalate to violence. Tribalism will destroy Zambia. Think wisely
The Barotseland Agreement must be dealt with once and for all to bring closure; whether it is to be split Zambia or not. This should not be brushed under the carpet anymore. Period!!!
Onbehalfof the poor people/Words of Wisdom/ and other names on here - October 15, 2011
13:23
good observation there.
infact kk is very much around.
MCS arrange a meeting with the litunga, gvt officials and KK.
you can include prominent citizens who were there in 1964 and 1969.
people like rodger chongwe, venon mwaanga, sikota wina, to mention but a few.
this people will help tackle this useless thing once and for all.
why should we be bothered by a document whose signatories are around.
deal with it now.
mature - October 15, 2011
12:12
From the litle understanding i get from the document and all bloggers, i tend to think that this Barotseland aggreement has not be followed from as far as 1964,one wonders as to why the this issue has kept quiet this long and why the Litunga saw it fit not break away when this document was first abused or not adhered to.
There is one thing i seem not understand, do the people of barotseland want to have this agreement followed or they want to just want to do away with it and have an independent nation? can anybody please shade some light here…?
himself - September 28, 2011
15:17
litaba mbuya, you are rght but note that barotseland covers NW,western,part of central province,and abit of CB province goes future to angola ,namibia ,zimbabwe and botswana;my question is are these nations aware of this agreement.check the barotselnd how it is on barotseland.com for the perimeter it covers;so its not only western province as borotseland.
comment mbuya you see to know what went wrong.
kalos jabu - September 28, 2011
09:02
Bo Mwansa what you have said is just like telling everyone else to foget about the laws we have in Zambia formerly Nothern Rhodesia/Barotseland that is why even in the constitution it says zambia is unitory state because they were two Nations which Agreed to form one State called Zambia, without the Barotseland agreement is there is no country called Zambia. Mutwile mbuya i dont know whether you are Kaonde,Lamba, Soli or Tonga for you to call us your Mbuya.
Read the quotes below and tell me something
Although David Livingstone “discovered” Barotseland, Francois Coillard was the missionary who exerted the greatest influence in the early years of European contact.
Lewanika said: “There are three sorts of whites, those of the government, the traders and missionaries. Fear those of the government, they have power; prey on the traders, for they have come to prey on you. As for the missionaries, a missionary is one of us.
Two points may be made in support of Lewanika, who remains a hero to the Lozi. He kept the Barotse heartland intact and the British came to his country by treaty, not conquest.
In Barotseland as in much of the empire, the British style was to rule without overt displays of power.
Colin Harding, who travelled up the Zambezi from Victoria Falls to Lealui, gave an account (In Remotest Barotseland, 1905) of Lewanika’s daily routine. He sat in the courthouse between 9am and 10am, hearing complaints, promulgating laws and attending to other government business. The indunas, or senior officials, representing the people, sat on his right. They alone had the right to criticise the king.
In Far Bugles, Harding praised Lewanika’s “charming personality”, his “loyalty and other inherent virtues”. When the Litunga visited London for the coronation of King Edward VII, with Harding in attendance, the king and his retinue were found not to touch alcohol.
“Lewanika’s whole and consistent attitude was befitting a gentleman and a great native ruler,” Harding wrote.
More than sixty years later Lewanika was still winning praise. A 1968 biography by Gervas Clay, Your Friend, Lewanika, could not speak too highly of the Litunga. “He died full of honour, loved and respected by his people as a great chief, leaving the heart of his country reserved to the Barotse by treaty rights and his own family secure on the throne. No African ruler of his time achieved more, and none was more regretted by all who had known him.”
The Zambian government has behaved just as stingily towards Barotseland as the colonial treasury.
Independence and after
Barotseland enjoyed a large degree of autonomy under the British. However, this once leading state, afflicted by its remoteness, slipped into backwardness. Development in Northern Rhodesia became focused on the mining areas and along the line of rail from Livingstone through Lusaka to the Copperbelt.
In recent times, as Gerald L. Caplan points out in The Elites of Barotseland 1878-1969 (1970), the country has been an underpopulated labour reserve with 1/6th of the land mass but less than 1/10th of the population of Zambia.
Barotse autonomy was at first maintained when the colony became Zambia in 1964. Later, it was removed, leading to long-running resentments at least among the elites.
The special status of Barotseland had been reaffirmed pre-independence by the Monckton Commission in 1960. But the United National Independence Party (UNIP) of Kenneth Kaunda beat Barotse secessionists in elections at various levels in 1962, 1963 and 1964.
Kaunda and the Litunga signed the Barotseland Agreement in 1964, independence year, but Zambia’s new leader evidently felt under no obligation to respect it. The following year the Local Government Act abolished the Litunga’s independent powers and the Barotse National Council was replaced by five district councils.
By now the Barotse electorate were awakening to what they had signed up for. In the 1968 national elections, UNIP lost eight of the province’s 11 constituencies. But it was too late. The Litunga lost his control of land, which was transferred to the state. The Barotseland Agreement was abolished in 1969, leaving all eight Zambian provinces on an equal footing for the first time but also leaving a legacy of bitterness among the Barotse that continues to this day. Barotseland now became the Western Province.
FROM THE WHAT YOU HAVE READ MBUYA IF NOT SETTLED NOW ZAMBIA WILL KEEP ON HAVING PROBLEMS WITH BAROTSIANS ALTHOUGH OTHERS TALK OF INTER MARRIAGES
MUTOLE HANDE KAUFELA MINA
litaba - November 17, 2010
09:18
Isnt there a provision somewhere for nulifying agreements or documents. This documents is exposing some foolish malozis.My Mbuyas, forget about barotse land. ITS ONE ZAMBIA ONE NATION. Chapwa
Mwansa - November 16, 2010
17:56
@litaba, Chipanta Matako, let my pipo go, monku et al
there is no need to to bring this issue to the point of isolating tribes and giving them bad names. its a fact that the document is there and it was signed. it is also a fact that in 1969 it was repealed (apparently without the consent of all stake holders). and its also a fact that the barotse lands feels it would be better off as an indipendent state. the question at hand is whether operating within the confines of law that is achievable. as much as u may want to argue abt it the Barotse agreement of 1964 clearly put the litunga at local gvt administration which was later revolked in 1969. in all fairness what the Litunga is supposed to push for is recognition as outlined by the agreement period. the agreement outlines the condition under which barotse land was to be part of Zambia with no provision for conditions under which barotseland can break way from it. it therefore makes logical sense to me considering how we have mixed over the 46yrs we have lived as one nation in terms of ethinicity to honor the document with reservations on certain clauses. Honestly i dont care having a few friends from across the border under a different nationality(am not telling u which side of the border i will be). nonetheless i xpect a lot of retrogression if comes down to that..
Torn Apart - November 16, 2010
12:11
Grow up! All of you throwing insults and useless rhetoric. Its aimless rapport and presumed consensus that has landed both rhodesians and balozi in dire straits.
KK is alive and well…..if that man cares bout peace and the country that he effectively mismanaged. He’ll speak out or would have done so already….but he hasn’t. Anyone wonder why? Think about it. Don’t succumb to simpleness but allow reasoning to encompass you free of any prejudice. If the legal contents and the grammer contained in the Baroste agreement perplex you then seek clarity and attempt to gain understanding rather than imposing a feeble arguement just because you want to be heard….FINE! Be heard,but speak on things you know well.
I’ve heard that western province has a wealth of resources…if this is true!? NINSHI MAMAMA!!!! If not….it would be probably to there loss seperating from zambia and resigning themselves to a dictatorship of sorts. If the lozi want to hang themselves…..let the borders be effectively be drawn by a knowledgable independent party. Its not a big issue if western province in just a giant sandbox. In my own opinion….Rhodesia shafted barotseland. Heard bout billions but clarity on the matter is sparingly sparse.
As an after thought the aids crusader popstar KK has answers……ask the old man. Love and peace to all y’all….lunda,luvale,bemba,ila,tonga,mbala mafias, everyone. Don’t be starting something….when it need not go that route. And if you’ll wanna fight something try the imf or world bank or abolishment of the anti corruption clause or tribalism or nepotism cause these have been enemies to our collective progress the whole time…..not sexy
lost lozi dude - November 16, 2010
01:21
Those who want the greement which Dr Kaunda signed it is there ask people like Rodger Chongwe and even RB himself. those who value the history of these two nations who formed a unitery state called Zambia you will see Dr Kaunda’s Signature and that of King SIR Mwanawina III in short I have seen it myself. And if you read the Post news papers and keep the copies after reading them find out what they wrote in their editorial on December 5 2009 then you will stop insulting the Lozi people. Why is Dr Kaunda silent he knows that he abrogated the Agreement and he also knows that should say anything stupid the international community will be on his throat. Good day guys
litaba - November 15, 2010
16:45
Mwana Nyandi you are a man, Keep that spirit of educating our friends who think we are threat to them and they should read Dr Chongwe SC article on barotseland agreement. by the way is not lozi or anywhere near being Lozi but he supports the lozis full and he has called on the Government to dialogue if they do not want problems in future
litaba - November 15, 2010
15:55
ZWD why have you removed Dr Chongwe’s aticle, by the way welcome back
litaba - November 15, 2010
15:22
All this talk about Bembas hating Lozis is unfounded. I agree with the rest that these are not Bembas writing such silly things. Bembas are respectable, these people exposing their dirt linen in public are from other tribes not BEMBA. Let go Barotseland if you who pretend to be Bemba feel it is a worthless place. Why hang on to it? The fact that you do not want to set the land free is a clear indication that there is honey in the province. Bembas should not allow their language to be used by imbeciles. My advice is read the document well, try to understand it and then comment
Nandi - November 14, 2010
17:28
I have been following the discussion very carefully. When we live as Zeds today, we cheat ourselves that we are united, alas the insults in this discussion clearly shows how close we are to the Rwandan Genocite. Superiority of other tribes will be to blame.
The topic is ‘Barotse Agreement’, I see no reason why we should fight or insult each other. The worst thing is to insult even the Litunga who hasn’t taken part of this discussion. You have/will never hear KK, Chiluba, Mwanawasa, RB or Litunga put a careless statement on the media regarding this topic The reason is simple, this is a sensitive matter. But here we are fighting and insulting innocent people on an issue we haven’t researched.
Let us listen, research on this Agreement and advise our leaders on the way forward. Insulting the Litunga, mocking Western Province, insulting the Bembas, the Tongas …. will just stimulate a recipe for war.
One thing that should open our minds is the reason why this Agreement was not well stipulated in our School Syllabus. We are taking this topic as a joke. Zambians let us learn to critically look at issues before we comment. Are we so special that what happened in Rwanda, Kenya, Zimbabwe, …. cannot happen to us. Should I remind you that Zambia has already experienced about 3 coup attempts?
If they succeded what could have been Zed today?
The homework is for us all. Let us persuade the Post to find and publish the original document for all of us to analyse. It is from the original content that we can get an idea on how to advise the Litunga and the Goverment. The experts in law will look at it and advise even better. Let us not pretend that what affects WP does not affect EP.
Why isn’t West Germany not advocating for a break off, why are the Red Indians in Brasil complaining, why are the Red Indians in America complaining, why do they want to divide Sudan…. the answer is simple; democracy, rule of law, human rights, justice, equity, cage corruption, Good Constitution, supply basic needs, development etc.
RB, KK, FTJ, Litunga they all need our respect. The peace in Zambia which has been put to a test should be guarded jealously by you and me.
God bless Zambia.
Eddie Kaks - November 14, 2010
11:18
@Chitimukulu
Gudmornin. Glad we r on the same page:)
Enjoy the week!
Chipanta Matako - November 8, 2010
11:04
Chipanta Matako – sorry, was meant for cyber gloves. You are spot on.
Chitimukulu - November 7, 2010
13:46
Bo Rodger Chongwe’s admirer, I’m glad you are calling yourself that. This is a quote from Rodger Chongwe’s article: “The agreement of 1964 was repealed by legislative fiat without any discussion or consensus from the parties.” That’s why people have been saying it was abrogated. Abrogated can be defined as done away with, annuled, or even repealed.
If u’ve read my earlier posts,I have said time and time again, that it is still legal and I still stand by that.. No apologies made
Chipanta Matako - November 7, 2010
08:40
@ cyber gloves & Chipanta Matako when was the agreement repealled? Did the Litunga assent to the repellation? Why would you want to do away with other peoples genuine heritage? Who would allow you to take some one’s birth right? Cyber Gloves, do you have a village where you come from, or your parents? How would you feel if someone claimed a right to your land and village? Would you go to them and say, ya ya ya we are all humans so have my village, my cattle and my wives? C’mon. This is a matter of heritage, and therefore grow up if you have none. Find some heritage for yourself – surely there must be a place you call home. Or not? No wonder.
Rodger Chongwe s Admirer - November 6, 2010
21:24
@cyber gloves
Today being saturday, I won’t write much… I’ll only advise you to find out how the agreement was repealed and if all parties were consulted and satisfied.
Chipanta Matako - November 6, 2010
15:42
It is good to discuss issues without insults. This issue is on the table for a dialogue. As a legal issue it is neither abrogated nor sterile. You may not be in the courts that will make final decisions of this matter. The truth will set us free. It is very unfair to blame the local people of western province for lack of development in the area. People anywhere in the world need empowerment and capacity building to develop. The successive governments of Zambia have done the damage. They are to blame for this split. They saw it coming. The Bible says for everything there is a season; time to be born time to die……In the same way, there is time to unit and time to separate. Time for One Zambia One Nation, time for One Zambia two Nations. Just let my people go in peace. They want to go.
Let my people go! - November 6, 2010
08:58
Iwe Chipata matako, dont waste your energy over something which is going nowhere, the BRE Agreement is no longer a legal document. It was done away with in 1969. That is why KK came with the Slogan of One Zambia One Nation!! He even came with a unification song “Tiyende Pamodzi Ndimutima Umo….” Too late my dear, Bartseland and Northern Rhodesia are no more. There is no way going back. The harder you guys push for autonomy, the more alienated the Lozis will be from other tribes. The other ramifications are clear and need not be mentioned. The truth hurts, Barostseland is passed on and there will be no resurrection!!
Cyber Gloves - November 6, 2010
07:29
@Wantanshi
Don worry. I’m a woman of my word, I will definitely deliver. I’m also not home at the moment.. I’m at school, but as soon as I’m back in Zed, al get you your fish
Chipanta Matako - November 5, 2010
13:30
@Chitimukulu
True! The issue is the document and its legality. Its like a woman who is widowed will inherit her husband’s estate whether or not their marriage was on the rocks…as long as they did not legally divorce. I’m just giving this as an example of the weight of a legal document. It can not simply be ignored. Let’s face it and move on. I agree with u, we can’t keep goin bak n forth on it
Chipanta Matako - November 5, 2010
13:22
@Fulwe, nitumezi ahulu. Really i believe it pays to be open-minded coz its a way of exchanging ideas and learning from each other.
Coming to yo question, in my opinion, I think it has dragged on becoz of how sensitive an issue it is. However, the kuta(BRE) sent representatives to make submissions to the CRC which were not taken and that’s what has ignited this. The only thing though, is that if this issue is shelved, it’ll be as good as sweeping dirt under a carpet… It will slowly come up again. The best way is to face it and find a lasting solution because its a legal document and needs to be honored one way or the other.
Chipanta Matako - November 5, 2010
13:10