RB’s immunity removed
Parliament has finally voted to remove former president Rupiah Banda’s immunity. But only 87 MPs took part in the voting as most opposition MPs walked out in protest. There are 159 MPs in the Zambian parliament.
At 19 hours local time, MPs from the ruling party who remained in the House cast the vote electronically with 80 voting in favour while 3 opposed. Four did not vote.
Earlier, Given Lubinda supported the motion as he spoke for the first time since being convicted of treacherous behaviour by PF.
Lubinda promises to enjoy his Jin and Tonic beer tonight as part of his celebrations on the lifting of RB’s immunity.
He said the position taken is good for the people of Zambia because it is good for the country. Lubinda is famous for his treacherous conduct like leaking information.
But UPND’s Muntanga says the whole arrangement will just benefit the police and others who will get money for investigations as the case is very weak.
Request Muntanga and other opposition MPs earliar walked out but returned to oppose the motion. He said from the allegations that issues to do with campaign materials will also end PF in jail.
Mr. Muntanga said he expected more from the mover of the motion than merely unregulated campaign materials.
He said he now suspects that even the PF is heavily involved in stealing state money for campaign materials.
According to Mr. Muntanga, he is not sure where the money is hidden based on the dossier presented by Wynter Kabimba yet under Levy Mwanawasa, these things were clear.
He said he is worried to remove immunity when there is no sufficient grounds yet once the motion is removed, it cannot be restored.
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Its now all aboard the ukwa express.kanshi madnes can be contagious.!
The thinker. - March 17, 2013
00:19
Jesus asked the pipo who had brought the lady cought in adultery to cast stones at her if they,themseves have never commited any sin.No one dared to throw a stone.Their moral consciouses convicted them. Surely of all the pipo,Kabimba was the 1st to cast a stone at RB.What hypocricy.How clean is Kabimba?Kabimba is immoral and bancrupt of any iota of feelings of a normal human being.I hope the ARVs haven’t damaged his brain.
Mjay - March 16, 2013
19:22
Ba kabwa. Them ate thieves but they waist time on Ala Bee. For what gains.
hilder hills - March 16, 2013
16:45
RB is a hard core CRIMINAL who should pay for his sins!!!!
Kay Hummer - March 16, 2013
16:03
Yes I paid all opposition members of parliament so that we can remain to vote. “NICE TRICK” isn’t it?
Kadoli Katapa - March 16, 2013
15:05
Yes, I paid all opposition members of parliament to deliberately walk out so that we can remain to vote. “NICE TRICK” isn’t it? That is what we call politics.
Next, I will be appointing them deputy ministers for the job well done, and when they are fired from their parties, I will adopt them to stand on my party. My plan is, with three years everyone will be PF, including HH and Mumba.
Kadoli Katapa - March 16, 2013
15:10
This trend has been set. The next one will be sata. He has already gone against our law several times. That is enough ground to one day prosecute.
Kaputa wa sata - March 16, 2013
14:09
Let Banda face the law so that Sata and those who will come after him will learn never to lay ‘monkey hands’ on public resources.
The John - March 16, 2013
13:43
Magande will have his gin and wine today. Good work Mmembership
Waterloo - March 16, 2013
13:34
PEOPLE FROM THE EAST ARE THE MOST USEFUL IDIOTS! THEY HELPED SATA TO REMOVE THEIR OWN RB FROM POWER AND NOW THEY HAVE HELPED REMOVE RB’S IMMUNITY!!!! USEFUL IDIOTS!!! BAMUZUNGU ANIKONDE!!!
FOR CHILUBA’S CASE, ALL BEMBAS GANGED UP AGAINST MWANAWASA AND PROTESTED. ONE SATA WAS ONE OF MOST VOCAL SUPPORTERS OF CHILUBA (HE WOULD SAY MWANAWASA HATES ALL BEMBAS, MWANAWASA CALLS ALL BEMBAS STINKING!!!)
TODAY LOOK AT THE EASTERNERS, NONE OF THEM HAS RAISED A VOICE AGAINST THE HARRASMENT OF THEIR OWN RB!!! USEFUL IDIOTS!!!!! STEPPING MATS FOR BEMBAS!!!!
LPM - March 16, 2013
13:30
Sad reading indeed!
A very bad and ugly precedence has been set and with no doubt the same will happen to Sata when he leaves office dead or alive.
Even Sata dies in office Zambians must demand that his immunity is removed posthumously so that his evil soul is trouble. He is so mien that the man can go to that extent to avenge for the perceived wrongs done to him by those he consider political enemies and in this case RB.
Shame on Wynter Kabimba and all the PF MPs some of whom were just hoodwinked to uplift RB’s immunity when in the actual sense they know it is not right.
It should now dawn on the opposition MPs that have accepted deputy ministerial positions that Sata and PF do not mean well for Zambia and the appointments were just for numbers that he needed to illegally strip RB’s immunity.
Now that Sata has succeeded in lifting RB’s immunity, all the “DOOR MATS” (opposition MPs with ministerial positions) he has used to step into the honourable house to lift RB’s immunity must brace themselves to be frustrated by PF members until they are fished since now there job is over. They have been used!
Richwell Siamunene, Greyford Monde, Poniso Njeulu, Miyutu, Gabriel Namulambe and many others will pay for their sins!
Idiots!
Bantustan By God's Design - EQTB - March 16, 2013
13:15
well done winter, now let us sort out GBM and lubinda zayelo
silubanje david - March 16, 2013
12:04
While walking out of parliament is a way of +vely protesting the motion,the fact is that our m.ps hav let us dwn.4z mmd it may be teken zt they knw z fate of banda,whle 4z upnd it looks like they hav z same agenda of national plunder and corruption.z liftng of zs immunity shld hav excited z oppositn coz presidnt sata has demonstrated zt presidents shld nt abuse power jst coz of immunity.mr sata shld b suported over hs stance ovr zs case and let us put all evils aside and serve our nation wth objectivity.lubinda is one such a person coz h is a leadr wh does not want leadrs t abuse their powers.pse z opp wht hope wl u gve t zambians if already u hav fears of liftng z immunity of 4ma leadrs?ar u telin us that yo leadrs wl b such corrupt pipo once pt in offce?prove t us zt u ar z best alternative gvt by strongly suportng such motions. Lubinda mst celebrate,yes,w need banda t be exornerated by z courts and let the law take its course or z courts t 4gve or aquit.zs shld b don in z shortest possble tme t serv money
Jozeh Chavma@gmai - March 16, 2013
12:02
Talk about a nation of docile sheeples, talk about Zambians! You were duped into voting in a government which goes on to take away your basic freedoms, violate the countries constitution and laws, and the best you can do is whine and throw around a few insults on anonymous online forums. Small wonder foreigners are syphoning out your fresh water, chopping down your forests, carting out your mineral resources and making slaves out of your kin in broad daylight!
Sumerian - March 16, 2013
12:00
This will enable RB clear his name from the allegations and explain why he gave instructions to slaughter Lozis.Of course Sata’s turn is coming.
Papa Siso - March 16, 2013
11:57
Pf, you promised us youths more money in our pockets in 90 days, WHERE IS THE MONEY! ITS NOW CLOSE TO TWO YEARS NO SIGN OF ANY NGWEE IN MY POCKET. STOP DIVIATING OUR ATTENTION TO THE NOSENSE YOU ARE DOING TO RB. VERY SOON YOU LL ALSO DANCE TO THE TUNE OF THE LAW.
John - March 16, 2013
11:54
Matibini, for your information, natural justice prescribes that the title ‘speaker’ you hold entails at the very basic that your role must be one of an neural arbitor who speaks in the spirit of fairness to all sides. With what you have done, you have proved you are a speaker of only pf. You have brought down the integrity of the house and you deserve no respect.
Matibini you have created a constitutional crisis.
Which courts will hear these charges against RB? The courts that granted an injunction against the intended resolution? There is an undeniable breach of principle that is incontestible at every level and jurisdiction.
Feni - March 16, 2013
11:50
This time around we shall not allow criminals to benefit in the name of removing the former presidents immunity.We have become a laughing stock as a country that is why from the time this govt took over other leaders from other countries have distanced themselves from this despotic regime.This case is going no where.
eddiemurphy - March 16, 2013
11:31
Waist of time&our money bcoz de court will not convict RB
Mike - March 16, 2013
11:24
Good news. So wat next after clothing trees during yo campaigns bwana former president?
sokwemucende - March 16, 2013
10:59
The problem with section 43 the constitution just says the national assembly resolution while other sectiond such as adopting the constitution or empichieng the president requires 2/3 majority.it happened in 2011 the constitutin was not adopted as PF and UPND walked out.it is only the court which can interpret it.
Namusunga - March 16, 2013
10:51
I wrote yesterday on the other tread that I was never a fun of RB during his short lived presidency and I’m all for prosecuting him if he indeed abused that high office. But can someone tell me: what did the country gain or benefit from lifting FTJ’s immunity and subsequently prosecuting him? Why can’t opposition MPs ask the government to tell the nation the gains achieved from that long winding prosecution of Chiluba up to and until his death? Equally how much was lost by the country through the expenses that came with the prosecution?
My gut instinct tells me NOTHING was gained, apart from fattening the bank accounts of some now fat public officers and enriching a Fraud Member of the public who benefited from FTJ’s misfortunates. So are we that gullible to go through the same expensive route as a nation to prosecute RB until his death, and enriching the same individuals in the process and adding the 3rd Seasonal person to enrich them?
Maverick - March 16, 2013
10:43
its job creation baba, we still have a lot of people who have not benefited from our campaign promises of awarding them jobs!
rb - March 16, 2013
12:47
Let the idiot rot in jail!
zambian - March 16, 2013
10:37
kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk!!!!!!RB u r finished!HH be prepared to explain over yo riches!KKKKKKKKKKKK!one zambia one nation.I told u!
zambian - March 16, 2013
10:34