Lubinda may stand as independent, prefers to be expelled

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lubindaKabwata PF MP Given Lubinda is pondering standing as Independent candidate if he is expelled by the PF.
And Lubinda has told people close to him that he prefers to be expelled from the ruling party as he thinks that will win him public sympathy.
Lubinda, who is the Foreign Affairs minister, is likely to be expelled from the ruling party on charges of treachery, working with the opposition UPND and passing information to the Daily Nation and Zambian Watchdog.
Lubinda, who is also PF chairman for Information and publicity has told people who have been urging him to strike first by  resigning that resigning is not a good strategy.
He believes that when he is expelled, he will be seen by Kabwata voters and the country at large as a victim. Lubinda is said to be hoping that his case will drag on so that he can benefit from the publicity where he is seen by voters as a victim of the intolerant PF.

His expulsion is almost certain as the PF central committee meets anytime but most likely this week to ‘hear’ his case. PF insiders says that there is no doubt that Lubinda will be expelled as president Sata is with Kabimba on this one. Even if he has a few central committee members who support him, they are unlikely to defend him as voting in that meeting will be by show of hands not secret ballot and Kabimba will be there to see who raises his hand for Lubinda.

Chishimba Kambwili who tried to defend Lubinda was silenced by one statement that he is giving his girlfriends money meant for youth empowerment.

Lubinda has been MP for Kwabata for 12 years now, starting in 2001 on the UPND ticket.
Lubinda is willing to defend his seat on the UPND ticket but feels that going back to UPND will be giving his enemies in PF the ammunition as they will say ‘we told you he has always been UPND.

But PF sources say whether Lubinda stands as an independent or hides in UPND, they will flush him out parliament. PF sources say they will do anything to make sure Kabwata does not go to the opposition after Lubinda is expelled as that will send wrong signals that the PF is crumbling.

PF sources also say that if Lubinda will make a lot of ‘noise’ when he is chased, the Anti Corruption and regular police will go knocking at his door. According to sources, there are a number of illegal activities  Lubinda has been involved in as minister of Foreign Affairs and senior member of the Lusaka City Council.

But Lubinda also faces rebellion from some of his close friends who have been helping him win elections even if his performance as MP in Kabwata is pathetic.
A number of people close to Lubinda talked to said that he grew pompous and big-headed when he was appointed minister by Sata.
His colleagues accuse him of having stopped answering their phone calls but that in the past three weeks, he has been sending them text message.

 

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148 Responses to Lubinda may stand as independent, prefers to be expelled

  1. @ Chisenga you PF cadre why should Honourable Lubinda apologise for what is right.PF IS FINISHED SATA AND HIS HENCHMEN ARE DOGS

    Aka Sam - January 2, 2013
    16:17

  2. @ Chisenga dont talk about things that are beyond your comprehension .Mr Lubinda is an honourable man .Sata and his henchmen are like dogs on heat , they want to remove anyone seem to be more popular than them.PF wouldnt have won Kabwata with out Mr lUBINDA.PF is on self distruct a sinking ship .Sata will cry when they lose KABWATA TO MR LUBINDA.

    Aka Sam - January 2, 2013
    16:13

  3. the dictator will do anything to move who ever stands in his way. but this dictator unlike kk the evil dictator who killed a number of zambians including kapwepwe and mundia nalumino can not run or jump. he got neither the steam to address a press conference lest he faints. he needs to rebased himself.

    mazoka massacre - January 2, 2013
    16:01

  4. Given your fate is sealed. Sata, PF and Wynter cannot change their thinking over your issue.
    They have fed each other lies.

    Lubinda God will make sure u win the elections though be mindful PF will pour inot Kabwata a lot of Govt resources to make u lose.

    Mpangula Mputyu - January 2, 2013
    15:06

  5. yaba!!!!!! ati….His colleagues accuse him of having stopped answering their phone calls but that in the past three weeks, he has been sending them text message. ZWD Kwena?

    laughter - January 2, 2013
    15:01

    • You made my day. Thats what politics does.

      JM - January 2, 2013
      15:02

  6. Well,i used 2 support Lubinda but his problem is that he doesn’t listern to people in Kabwata constituency.I was also dissappoited with rangles in PF.But after asking kabwata people i discovered that Lubinda that is no loger liked by people.1.He has taken back money meant for development in kabwata that everything is fine in the area.2.People are annoyed with him for not tarring Zipas Road and Brake point road which goes to Chamwama.The roads are impassable.When it runs Kamwala south is no go area.Among the constuencies Kabwata is laging behind.Kamwala south is bad indeed.The roads are not graded.MMD did something in Kamwala South not PF under Lubinda. PF members are worried that PF may loose popularity in Lsk.They want to remove MPs who are not perfoming and Lubinda is doing nothing.Please people ask Kabwata people for more information before we support him blindly.I’m dissappointed with him.Kamwala south,Libala,Chilenge yaba no go area when it ruins.Miles Sampa in Matero is doing great in terms of roads.To make matters worse Lubinda impossed a concellor in Kamwala south who stays in Ibex Hill instead of Assa Farm the Man who stays there.people almost boycotted but jst coz of party unity we accepted.

    Moscow(OP) - January 2, 2013
    14:57

    • Why are u supporting Kabimba iwe Moscow? Shut up!!

      Pesonde - January 2, 2013
      16:13

  7. mr lubinda, you are a great man and you have my vote,But my advice is plz dont stand as an indpendent it will be very difficult to counter check pf nonsense during vote counting.therefore just talk to upnd and you will win.you would have gone to mmd but that one its nomore.

    one zambia 72 nations - January 2, 2013
    14:03

  8. Given – yu ar gone. Dats d end of yo polical career myfriend.Kindly still some cobili dre before yu are dead and buried. Yu helped PF to ascend to power, but they have helped yu to descend from your seat. Too bad my friend. On the other hand, swallow yo pride. Yu will never win as an independent.

    sokwemuchende - January 2, 2013
    13:47

  9. Are the allegations against Given true? I do not understand what benefit he would have from selling out PF to the opposition after working so hard to put PF in power and being in the ruling!

    Makuli - January 2, 2013
    13:11

  10. kabimba and PF don’t know what they are doing. Given, show them.

    wambachi - January 2, 2013
    12:26

  11. i see that Lubinda is up against satana and all the devils, he will surely lose elections if he stands as independent unless on UPND. satana will make sure he vehemently and shamefully rig elections to save his pride and summer

    zonde - January 2, 2013
    12:26

  12. you guys you thimk by insulting then you are a man enuogh? stop your nonsence.

    mazombwe - January 2, 2013
    12:19

  13. he was too pompous and thought the cobra could be tamed.mwenye aliye nzelu

    chakumunzi - January 2, 2013
    11:56

  14. Pf have done Given wrong.
    But still, I agree that;
    1. Given is a pathetic MP like all his PF colleagues in Lusaka.
    2, he should be made to answer to the illegal activities at LCC regarding land.

    Spyglass - January 2, 2013
    11:44

    • Its Given Lubinda who has put the PF Councillors in check otherwise we would have experienced chaos over LCC land.

      The Mayor and his fellow Councillors hate him because he has refused to allow them to share land at the former Army range in Libala South. This is on record.

      He doesn’t need to answer to kabwangas, NO!

      Mwine Mushi - January 2, 2013
      12:23

  15. Aba bemba bamichita shani?

    bauer - January 2, 2013
    11:40

  16. Bo Given yo political curve is nose diving….thats politics baba….Just Concentrate on running that Namakau Pa light Place!!

    Kunta Kinte - January 2, 2013
    11:39

  17. This is what happens when the people elected are after amassing wealth.
    Everyone is power hungry nowadays.

    Who do they serve? Themselves not you or me.

    Poverty and hatred stricken politics.

    truthates - January 2, 2013
    11:25

  18. point of correction,Yes Given is lozi how about kabwili?

    nawakwi - January 2, 2013
    11:24

  19. You bemba hyenas keep your insults to yourselves talk the issues. Lubinda is not guilty; the guilty fellow is Wynter shorter than even Michael Sata who is very short. The chap Wynter is crazy, greedy corrupt, crooked and pure thief.

    ngana - January 2, 2013
    11:21

  20. give him a second chance ba given is hard working compared to….

    nawakwi - January 2, 2013
    11:19

  21. I don’t care what happens to slippery hair zayellow. He became seriously pompous. He insulted RB and anyone who advised the PF. It is good that he is suffering. Let him him even suffer more

    Bokoseni Mwale - January 2, 2013
    11:19

  22. Given if u r expelled just stay out of politics for a while we love you,wont forget you when your hour comes

    Ignatius Chikoti - January 2, 2013
    11:17

  23. Given, UPND, MMD and the rest will not go anywhere, just join the upcoming popular party NAREP in case you are expelled and you shall scoope the Kabwata seat! For UPND, may be when they change their leader. As for MMD, it is finished like its current leader! Others like ADD, ZDDM and the rest, they are non starters.

    benard - January 2, 2013
    11:12

    • That’s right on my bro

      Citizen - January 2, 2013
      12:03

  24. IF YOU PLAY WITH A SNAKE IT WILL BITE YOU ONE DAY

    CASSANDRA - January 2, 2013
    11:10

  25. Ba ZWD..Given is the PF chairman for local government and not information and publicity.please check your facts before print

    bashi k - January 2, 2013
    11:10

  26. lubinda u are lozi so bembas dont want u.

    zambezi - January 2, 2013
    10:59

  27. Given Lubinda should remain in the PF by all means. Wynter KAbimba’s schemes to remove competitors in his presidential ambitions must be stopped by all right thinking members of the central committee.

    It is no secret that the first draft constitution makes Given Lubinda eligible to stand as President in 2016 and hence give stiff competition to Wynter Kabimba.

    Wynter realises that the only way to get Given Lubinda out of the way is by either having him expelled (which might not happen) or lose his government portfolio on grounds of misconduct. If the later happens, article 97 Clause 2 (C) of the draft constitution disqualifies him from being nominated as a candidate for election as President of the Republic of Zambia.

    The cited article reads “A person is disqualified from being nominated as a candidate for election as President if that person was removed from public office on grounds of gross misconduct.”

    You can fool some people sometimes, but you can’t fool all the people all the time

    Mwine Mushi - January 2, 2013
    10:52

    • You have just equipped Wynter with ammunition he didn’t have. He is too dull to make such an analysis.

      Bokoseni Mwale - January 2, 2013
      14:55

  28. Lubinda is believed to have leaked information to his fiends who reported him to sata regarding the barotse issue when he was in europe and america recently. he was strongly questioned about it and decided to call friends who later sold him out.

    we are awre about this.

    sikoto - January 2, 2013
    10:34

    • So why is Sata telling Given to be strong over this matter? We are also aware of things behind curtains.

      Mwine Mushi - January 2, 2013
      10:57

    • Lubinda must apologize to his party PF,leaking information is a devastating act being a senior member. he puts himself in a very precarious position in relation with his fellow PF members, what will they think of him?.the only workable strategy lubinda has is to apologize and get on with business unless he longer believes in the PF he helped build.I believe lubinda is vital to the development of this country and am sure he is tactical enough not to let the opposition tempt him.

      edward mutale chanda - January 2, 2013
      11:25

  29. THE PRESIDENT CAN MAKE A STOP TO THIS NOSENSE. HE HAS THE POWERS TO STOP MR.KABIMBA FROM DOING WHATEVER HE IS DOING SIMPLY BY FORGIVING THE GENTLEMAN. LUBINDA CONTRIBUTED GREATLY TO PF WINNING AND SO THE ISSUE OF WHO REMAINS IN THE PARTY SHOULD BE SORTED OUT WITH UTMOST CARE.

    AUGUSTINE CARRASCO MWEWA - January 2, 2013
    10:26

  30. Given Lubinda should remain in the PF by all means. Wynter KAbimba’s schemes to remove competitors in his presidential ambitions must be stopped by all right thinking members of the central committee.

    It is no secret that the first draft constitution makes Given Lubinda eligible to stand as President in 2016 and hence give stiff competition to Wynter Kabimba.

    Wynter realises that the only way to get Given Lubinda out of the way is by either having him expelled (which might not happen) or lose his government portfolio on grounds of misconduct. If the later happens, article 97 Clause 2 (C) of the draft constitution disqualifies him from being nominated as a candidate for election as President of the Republic of Zambia.

    The cited article reads “A person is disqualified from being nominated as a candidate for election as President if that person was removed from public office on grounds of gross misconduct.”

    You can fool some people sometimes, but you can’t fool all the people all the time

    Mwine Mushi - January 2, 2013
    10:21

  31. what information did this man leak is it to do with corruption then pipo should rally behind him and not against. what are they hiding which should not be known to the public? sad indeed.

    eagle's eye - January 2, 2013
    10:15

  32. These are bembas, they’v used yu like a condom. Just go back to upnd…… Winter kabimba.

    Hambala mukwempa Hitler. - January 2, 2013
    10:12

  33. PIZZA

    GAMACUULU - January 2, 2013
    10:09

  34. LEAVE LUBINDA ALONE.NOT ALL PEOPLE WHO VOTED FOR LUBINDA WERE CADRES.SOME JUST VOTED TO HAVE A CHANGE OF THE MMD THAT HAD OUTLIVED ITS LIFE SPAN.SO GIVEN IF YOU ARE EXPELLED YOU WILL STILL WIN AS MP FOR KABWATA.WHAT IS WRONG IN ASSOCIATING WITH MMD OR UPND?WHAT OF PRESIDENT SATA WHO IS ALWAYS MEETING DIFFERENT PEOPLE AT STATE HOUSE.HE SAYS HE WILL INVOLVE ANY ONE WHO WANT DEVELOPMENT WHAT OF GIVEN MEETING THE OPPOSITION MPS AND INTERACTING WITH THE MEDIA IS IT CRIME.LEARN TO PLAY CLEAN POLITICS ZAMBIANS.BASANGA BALETEYA BA PF.

    The watchful eye - January 2, 2013
    10:06

  35. Cant Given be forgiven???

    Ba Kapufi - January 2, 2013
    10:04

    • Yes he can be 4given

      Sosa - January 2, 2013
      11:16

      • But what wrongs has he committed for him to be forgiven?

        Pakanwa Fye (PF) - January 2, 2013
        11:33

        • Lubinda is believed to have leaked information to his fiends who reported him to sata regarding the barotse issue when he was in europe and america recently. he was strongly questioned about it and decided to call friends who later sold him out.

          we are awre about this.

          Advisor - January 2, 2013
          13:06

  36. i think PF especially those in kabwata should be tolerant enough to let man stay,cant he be given a second chance,
    if we continual like this suerly how many by-electiion are we goin to have?

    kangwa - January 2, 2013
    09:36

  37. I really wanted Kabimba out. Pf is strong,we will miss Lubinda.

    jobix - January 2, 2013
    09:31

  38. blesing in disguise is this a.r.t.i.c.l.e.

    RASTA MAN(CULTURE DEFENDER) - January 2, 2013
    09:28

  39. this story is a blesing in disguise to Lubinda.

    RASTA MAN(CULTURE DEFENDER) - January 2, 2013
    09:25

  40. pf has totally failed to deliver there fake promises.why frustrate given? just work.

    mc - January 2, 2013
    09:17

  41. Mwanamonga please don’t say “I recommend Masebo…” … the correct word is COMMEND. MANY OF OUR PEOPLE ALWAYS MAKE THAT MISTAKE – I KNOW ENGLISH IS NOT OUR MOTHER TONGUE.THERE IS A BIG DIFFERENCE AND CONTEXT BETWEEN COMMEND AND RECOMMEND

    Mukuwa - January 2, 2013
    09:14

  42. In my opinion, I do not see Lubinda win back Kabwata if he stands as an independent. Much as he may think he is popular which I also think is true, but he will have an uphill battle unless he stands on a particular party to help him campaign.

    Given, do not be cheated, you are in a very precarious situation bkos of the pipo you are dealing with. Think wisely or else, things wont be rosy!

    Mubanga - January 2, 2013
    09:11

  43. Just swallow your pride go back to UPND. Remember the story of prodigal son in the bible.

    kenjay - January 2, 2013
    09:10

    • UPND first needs clean up before intellectuals like Given Lubinda can join them. With the current arrangement it is far from attracting a populous vote. We need to bring back the Anderson Mazoka’s days and strategy in UPND for it to KICK the hell out of PF. Otherwise, I guarantee you fellows that come 2016 PF will scoop the day if the current situation of leadership in UPND is not arrested.

      PFP - January 2, 2013
      10:13

  44. u pf guyz stop troubling Given.Lubinda is popular in kabwata & indeed country wide,and so he can win if he stand as an independent candidate. u will regret you guyz when he scope the seat.all the best zayelo.

    paul - January 2, 2013
    08:47

  45. I want to recommend ms. Masebo, she has done it for poor chiefdoms such chiefteness Shikabeta. This is my home, where despite keeping the game , 49 years of independence the area has had poor road, completely no infrastructure that you can talk about. The area has coal deposits, indignant mukwa trees, that has been depleted by few selfish briefcase buyers who have corruptly obtained trade documents. Madam, Shikabeta GMA is one area where illegal activities have been happening, take a drive one week end and talk to the chiefteness royal highness Shikabeta. Please BURN these activities completely. I should be calling you any time.

    Mwanamonga - January 2, 2013
    08:46

    • You mean commend?

      Imbuwa - January 2, 2013
      10:28

    • My relative mwanamoonga,the only HRH in that area is the one who has the name of our great ancestor mukamaambo,the others are just headmen and women.

      Muunga a matwi abacizakala - January 2, 2013
      10:33

  46. He thought he was cleaver when he used to insult UPND.Now he is going to face the wrath of the real PF.He deserves it.

    Eagle's Eye - January 2, 2013
    08:44

  47. He thought he was clear when he used to insult UPND.Now eh is going to face the wrath of the real PF.He deserves it

    Eagle's Eye - January 2, 2013
    08:43

  48. it is true

    chengs - January 2, 2013
    08:40

  49. This the lesson to most MPs who are not performing.For example Chimbamilinga constituency,roads are in a deplorable state: Mporokoso -Nsama road,Kapinda turnoff-Kashikishi roads,Kaputa -Kasongole road.I believe this roads can even be worked on using the CDF but one wonders were the CDF goes…some MPs are not jus proactive.

    Nsama - January 2, 2013
    08:35

    • Look here, the question is not necessarily about performance but patronage. The worst performers, as long as they bootlick, will not be axed. So Lubinda’s case has nothing to do with performance but loyalty, sychopancy, patronage – call it what you may

      Ulemu ni Wabwino - January 2, 2013
      10:31

    • Just like matero nothing is happening, Miles should also be chased

      jozi - January 2, 2013
      12:43

  50. Bo Lubinda you are a Zambian first and foremost, so put the country first. PF is failing to deliver, so why remain in a group full of failures and deceptive people. The writing is clear on the wall, you have been “used” by the “Bemba Mafia”. Its time to book-out. Viva Given

    "TRUE ZAMBIAN" - January 2, 2013
    08:29

    • You are not a true Zambian matole yanoko. You are speaking tribalism and you call yourself a true Zambia? Where?

      Kapotwe Tugiligili - January 2, 2013
      09:38

      • If yo Noko did not have matole you wouldnt be here.

        Homestead - January 2, 2013
        10:18