Pastor says his ex-wife is still bitter and influencing son

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A based Lusaka pastor is alleged to have abandoned his fifteen year old son after divorcing with his wife years ago.

Pastor Febian Banda of Burning Bush Apostolic church of Christ is reported to have chased his son Phillip away from home on grounds that he is a bad mannered child.

However, Pastor Banda told Muvi TV news that Philip is being influenced by his ex-wife who is still bitter after the divorce.

He accuses his ex-wife of using Philip to bring him into ridicule and tear apart his ministry and his new marriage.

Pastor Banda says that he has on many occasions attempted to deliver his son from what he terms demonic forces but it does not work out because Philip is seemingly not ready to undergo deliverance.

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  1. Is this pastor divorced or he just pregnanted someone before officially marrying pliz help.

    bobobo mukanaka - October 21, 2012
    19:24

    • the name of the church @Burning Bush Apostolic Church of Christ, are u sure, ishina lyambutusha

      pppppppppppppp - October 22, 2012
      10:35

  2. pastor,yo real wife is now an adultereress and yu ar an adulterer .she also wants to enjoy with her new hubby as yu want to .the biggest problem is that yu ar not fit to be a pastor ,yo laity ar blindly led . yu,ve made pastoral work to be insulted .yu pentecostals dont fear yo creator ,shame

    the redeemed - October 21, 2012
    18:36

  3. Imwe ba pente is someone has a bad habit u say he has a demon. U spiritualise everything. What is a demon, if someone steals fro you u say they ve a demon. Pastor don’t u help others with demons? Don’t run away fro responsibility, that woman has destroyed you; she has no right to talk ill of yo son. She sould have kept quiet. She has worsened the problem

    Anecho - October 21, 2012
    18:26

  4. charity beings at home. A good leader leads by example where ever he/she might be. A person who fails to control his family can not teach other people’s children. You shall know them by their fruits.

    chishala - October 21, 2012
    17:24

  5. pf’s national anthem:stand n sing of zambia proud n bitter,land of bitter n joy.

    chibumba - October 21, 2012
    16:44

  6. YOU ARE A DEMONIC PASTOR BECAUSE YOU HAVE NO LOVE SINCE YOU FAILED RECONCILE WITH YOU OWN WIFE. WHAT LOVE DO YOU. IS IT THE LOVE OF GOD OR THE DEVIL OF THE BURNIG BUSH DEVIL MINISTRIES

    jNR - October 21, 2012
    16:11

  7. The pastor is nephew to Sata. If he is divorced why is he still ministering? Isn’t the pastor demonically possesed?

    Zimbwi na bible - October 21, 2012
    15:12

  8. bitter is now a pf word to justify their incomptence and irrespnsibilties

    kalonga - October 21, 2012
    15:06

  9. This so called pastor is the one who needs deliverance. He is a stupid man to chase his son.

    CTimothy - October 21, 2012
    14:04

  10. Dont compare HH to kabimba, HH is clean

    K u mbala - October 21, 2012
    13:53

  11. Nevers mumbas son has sang a good song which goes like “bashi mapepo ichecheteni bakapyunga ichecheteni check yourself check yourself

    Outlaw - October 21, 2012
    13:50

  12. Tell andeleki to deregister this church.i think on this one i can support him if he wants to deregister it.stupid pastor.very bitter

    Mr Kiss - October 21, 2012
    13:16

    • Certainly he needs stupid Andeleki

      Kapotwe Tugiligili - October 21, 2012
      14:13

    • Paster Banda will say Andeleki is bitter

      couger - October 21, 2012
      15:05

  13. If Mark 10, Luke 16, Romans 7 and 1 Corinthians 7 all state that there can be NO DIVORCE, is Jesus now contradicting the teaching given elsewhere? Having said plainly in verses 4-6 of Matthew 19 that there can be no divorce, is He now contradicting Himself a mere three verses later? Some would say that porneia means adultery or other sex sin, and Jesus was here permitting divorce for such immorality. However, if that were the case, Jesus need only say that He agreed with the teaching of the Pharisaic school of Shammai — because that is what they taught. But Jesus had not accepted the Pharisees’ views at all. He had told them bluntly, “Get in line with God’s purpose from the beginning and STOP SEPARATING!”

    Agape Love - October 21, 2012
    13:15

  14. However, Jesus stopped them in their tracks — those whom God binds are one flesh, and men are to STOP SEPARATING! This was NOT what the Pharisees expected to hear!“But what about what Moses said,” cried the Pharisees? “Didn’t he permit divorce?” Jesus explained that Moses may have made certain concessions because of people’s hard hearts, but “from the beginning it was not so.” It was certainly not God’s intention or purpose. And, irrespective of what Moses may, or may not have said, Jesus continued “I SAY, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication (porneia), and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery,” Matthew 19:9.Now just what was Jesus referring to here?

    Agape Love - October 21, 2012
    13:15

  15. The Pharisees wanted Jesus to pick sides. Which school of the Pharisees was right?Jesus reply was PLAIN. “Have ye not read, that He which made them at the beginning made them male and female, and said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be ONE FLESH?Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, LET NOT MAN PUT ASUNDER,” Matthew 19:4-6. This is exactly what we have read in Mark 10, Luke 16, Romans 7 and 1 Corinthians 7; one-hundred per-cent consistency!But this rather took the Pharisees aback. They had assumed divorce was acceptable, and just wanted Jesus to specify the conditions (then no doubt they would have tried to tangle Jesus further with their devious arguments).

    Agape Love - October 21, 2012
    13:14

  16. Let’s now look more closely at this word porneia, and see if we can determine HOW Christ meant it to be understood.We pick up the story in Matthew 19:3. The Pharisees came to Jesus testing Him about divorce. “Can you get divorced for just any reason?” they asked. The Pharisees all agreed that divorce was permissible, but disagreed among themselves as to what was an acceptable reason for divorce. Two of the major schools — or groups — of Pharisees at that time were the school of Hillel, and the school of Shammai. Those of the school of Shammai taught that divorce was only permitted when there was unchastity, or adultery, involved. The school of Hillel was of the opinion that divorce was in order if, for any reason, the husband was dissatisfied with his wife — even if, for example, she burned his dinner one night!

    Agape Love - October 21, 2012
    13:14

  17. The young man discovers that his wife complains if he wants to go out with his buddies every week to a football match, and “regrets” losing his “freedom?”The question we need to answer is not what WE think would be a kind and caring way to deal with marriage difficulties, but what does GOD SAY. The instructions in Mark, Luke, Romans and First Corinthians are very plain. NO DIVORCE. Jesus Rejects the Pharisees Views. So what, then, does the exception clause in Matthew 19:9 (and chapter 5:32 of the same book) mean? Does porneia mean you can get a divorce if you “regret” getting married? Does it mean you can get a divorce if your wife or husband commits adultery? What if your spouse turns out to have homosexual leanings?

    Agape Love - October 21, 2012
    13:13

  18. I need another commission to chair the conduct of pators,or maybe we put it this way,more tribunals more money in my malawi pocket.

    Judge chikopa - October 21, 2012
    13:13

  19. But once that first step is taken, there seems no end to the reasons that are eventually given to permit divorce. Consider, for example, the teaching of the Worldwide Church of God. In its Special Policy Statement of April 20, 1993 the WCG reaches the incredible conclusion that divorce is acceptable “… if either party informs the Church in the earliest months of the marriage that he or she REGRETS his or her marriage!” Unbelievable! The young wife discovers that she has to wash too many smelly socks, and “regrets” getting married?

    Agape Love - October 21, 2012
    13:12

  20. That occurs in marriage all too often. Sometimes, a husband and wife just “grow apart.” At other times, one partner can become abusive, and make life difficult — almost intolerable — for the other. Sometimes, alcohol wrecks a relationship. Sometimes there is infidelity, and one partner has one, or more, “affairs” with someone else.From a human perspective, it seems kind and considerate to give those involved in such difficult relationships “another chance” at happiness — freedom to divorce and remarry if the marriage has “irretrievably broken down.” Out of such feelings of kindness, many have sought to find biblical reasons to allow such second chances at marital success.

    Agape Love - October 21, 2012
    13:11

  21. So the position was clear to those in Corinth, too. No divorce. If separation occurs, the options are only to remain unmarried, or to seek reconciliation — there is no option to REMARRY!But did Jesus mean something different to the readers of the gospel written by Matthew? Was Jesus CONTRADICTING HIMSELF when He allowed the putting away for porneia? Did the Apostle Paul not know of Christ’s teachings?
    Problems in Marriage. We all know that, as human beings, there are times when we do not get along.

    Agape Love - October 21, 2012
    13:10

  22. There are a number of basic scriptures that are TOTALLY CLEAR, with no trace of ambiguity. For example, “And they twain shall be one flesh: so then they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore GOD HATH JOINED together, LET NOT MAN PUT ASUNDER …whosoever shall put away his wife, and marry another, committeth adultery against her. And if a woman shall put away her husband, and be married to another, she committeth adultery,” Mark 10:9-12.

    Agape Love - October 21, 2012
    13:06

  23. Our understanding has been that for those married IN THE CHURCH — or where both married partners are subsequently converted — marriage is till “death does them part.” Separation may sometimes occur, but there can be NO REMARRIAGE.However, some have been troubled by the so-called exception clause given by Jesus. For example, in Matthew 19:9, Jesus says, “And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication (Greek word: porneia), and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.”

    Agape Love - October 21, 2012
    13:05

  24. So the position was clear to those in Corinth, too. No divorce. If separation occurs, the options are only to remain unmarried, or to seek reconciliation — there is no option to REMARRY!But did Jesus mean something different to the readers of the gospel written by Matthew? Was Jesus CONTRADICTING HIMSELF when He allowed the putting away for porneia? Did the Apostle Paul not know of Christ’s teachings?

    Agape Love - October 21, 2012
    13:04

  25. It would be many years after the time of Christ before the New Testament scriptures were collected together for everyone to read. Up till then, many of those in the early New Testament church would only have a part of the scriptures. Those who only had access to, say, the books of Mark, Luke or Romans, would read the very plain commandment — DO NOT DIVORCE.To those converted in Corinth, Paul wrote, “And unto the married (in God’s Church) I COMMAND, yet not I, but the Lord, LET NOT the wife depart from her husband: But and if she depart, let her REMAIN UNMARRIED, or be reconciled to her husband: and let not the husband put away his wife,” 1 Corinthians 7:10-11.

    Agape Love - October 21, 2012
    13:04

  26. This passage in Mark is very clear. Remarriage of anyone bound in marriage by God is ADULTERY. Jesus is quoted saying the SAME THING in Luke 16:18.In Romans 7:2-3, the Apostle Paul states, “For the woman which hath an husband is bound by the law to her husband SO LONG AS HE LIVETH; but if the husband be dead, she is loosed from the law of her husband. So then IF, while her husband liveth, she be married to another man, she shall be CALLED AN ADULTERESS: but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man.”

    Agape Love - October 21, 2012
    13:03

  27. Ati burning bush apostolic kuti. Zakuvuta chabe.
    Heeeeeeeee!

    Jo - October 21, 2012
    12:53

  28. ‘Bitter’ is a word on the market. If you are put in a tight corner by any means and you are not able to defend yourself just say bitter. If your parents tell you to wake up early so that you are not late for school just tell them they are bitter.

    Malende - October 21, 2012
    11:46

    • Is there any way to include bitter in the national anthem…?

      Cycle Mata - October 21, 2012
      13:01

      • Very soon. It is likely to replace ‘Proud and Free’ or ‘Free Men We stand’

        Malende - October 21, 2012
        14:13

        • Proud and free will be bitter and free. Free men we stand will be bitter men we sit

          couger - October 21, 2012
          15:03

          • This is a good one.

            Mulonda - October 21, 2012
            15:11

  29. @Kwekwe and Don,what has HH has to do with that irresponsible pastor. For your own information HH is SDA and if one is rich then he is a satanist shame on you. I wonder if in your area there are people who are rich.
    Beware the way you push in your comments.if you are telling us the truth that HH is a satanist then you should be one of them because a thief will know a fellow thief.

    Socrates - October 21, 2012
    11:25

    • Thats very true. This chap should know that as long as he is a sata fanatic, he is the on who is a satanist. Infact you and your sata are just bitter because HH is very rich.

      Ibu - October 21, 2012
      20:08

  30. This Pastor is just greedy.That is GENDER BASED VIOLENCE. Whom do he think will take care for his child. The mother also want peace and enjoy her new marriage. He is not a pastor, he is KAWALALA stealing from people in the name of the Church. God forgive this greedy pastor

    Zvee - October 21, 2012
    11:20

  31. We have a problem Zambians we don’t read our Bibles.We claim to be christians honestly speaking how can you be lead by a so called PENTECOSTAL Pastor who has remarried and yet his wife is still alive?BLIND leader leading blind people both will fall in a ditch.The pastor is fake and he is leading people people who are going to hell if they won’t realise this and repent.The other problem we have as zambians is that we think that whoever can shout loud and pray very well is a servant of God.LETS WAKE UP ZAMBIANS BEFORE THESE SERVANTS OF SATAN DEVOUR US

    kangale kelvin - October 21, 2012
    11:12

  32. Let that pastor go back to the first wife.His son needs no deliverance.It is the pastor himself who needs to b delivered frm the second wife.

    JJ - October 21, 2012
    11:01

  33. @kantolo thanx 4 your compliment but the facts still remain the same.HH has 2 children in mazabuka and i think nakun’gombe alifyalako.pliz tell him to look after his postarity,period!

    Don - October 21, 2012
    10:58

    • U SHOULD GROW UP.I HAVE NO DOUBT U WERE BROUGHT UP UNDER A BROKEN HOME.FOR WHAT DO U INSULT LYK THAT.THE BIBLE SAYS RESPECT UR ELDERS SO THAT U MIGHT LIVE LONG,THAT INCLUDES RESPECTING HH,SATA,GBM ETC ETC.

      THE BIG ONE - October 21, 2012
      12:21

    • Do if you were sued, you can’t even defend what you are saying. You are the people who are supporting stupid schemes to like “Tongas under Oath.” I am not Tonga but your stupid schemes are undermining peace in this country. HH is just a heard worker period and no matter how much mud you throw at him it will not change anything. For once learn to fear God…

      Kantolo - October 21, 2012
      16:16

  34. Careful with zambian pastors, they twist scriptures to suit themselves. Pastor is living in sin period. He is the one who needs deliverance not the son

    mambala - October 21, 2012
    10:52

  35. FORMER PRESIDOS,CURRENT PRESIDOS AND FUTURE PRESIDOS ARE ALL SATANISTS.YOU CAN’T
    BE A PRESIDO AND SERVE GOD.PRESIDENCY IS ASSOCIATED WITH LIES,KILINGS,JELOUSY.SO IF YOU BELONG TO PF YOUR god IS SATA,UPND YOU god IS HH,MMD HAS A NEW god NEVER MUMBA.THATS WHY JEHOVAH’S WITNES DONT VOTE.

    BURNING SPEAR(WINSTONE RODNEY) - October 21, 2012
    10:46

  36. Whts tht pastor got to do with HH?ur filled with hate en u r busy condemning others,remove the log in your eye first,shame on u

    malilwe chikumi - October 21, 2012
    10:43

    • dont worry about them. They are bitter because they are poor and dull.

      couger - October 21, 2012
      15:00

      • They are bitter about HH. These PF

        Hamanjanji - October 21, 2012
        15:23

  37. The fake pastor has divorced and remarried whilst his first wife is still alive but what does the Holy Book say,honestly how do people allow an adulterous person lead them coz this guy is openly commiting adultery with his so called new wife and their children are born out of an adulterous affair thats what the word says

    Outlaw - October 21, 2012
    10:31

    • Amen to that….Careful with zambian pastors, they twist scriptures to suit themselves. Pastor is living in sin period. He is the one who needs deliverance not the son

      mambala - October 21, 2012
      10:49

  38. to be a pastor it is a good business enjoying with women around .

    jojo - October 21, 2012
    10:27

  39. Don you are an idiot…period.

    Kantolo - October 21, 2012
    10:16

  40. This “Pastor” is a PF cadre, he also is using the B-word (“bitter”) to describe his opponent!

    Czar - October 21, 2012
    09:51

  41. Some bloggers do not deserve space on this site. How do you bring other people here who have nothing to do with the issue at hand. I don’t take rumour mongers seriously as they are time wasters speculating even where they lack credible evidence

    Honest - October 21, 2012
    09:46

  42. WHICH CHURCH DOES HH ATTEND? ZAMBIANS DON’T VOTE FOR A SATANIST.HH AND MAZOKA WHERE ONCE MEMBERS OF FREE MANSON. HAVE THEY REPENTED, IF SO WHEN? NO WONDER SOME OF THEM HAVE ACCUMULATED SO MUCH WEALTH AND THEY SAY THEY ARE HARD WORKING. IF THEY WORK HARD WHY HAVE THEY FAILED TO ORGANIZE THEIR PARTY AND WIN ELECTIONS? PLEASE GOD DO NOT GIVE US A LEADER WHO WORSHIP DEMONS.AMEN!!!

    Kwekwe - October 21, 2012
    09:36

    • HH Z AN ADVENTIST.MAZOKA CUD HV BN A MASON AT SOME POINT.ONE THNG IS EVEN FREEMASONS ATTEND NORMAL CHURCHES LIKE CATHOLIC,UCZ ETC.

      Licholocholo - October 21, 2012
      10:02

      • What do you mean they attend normal churches like Catholics? that sounds vague. are u a christian your self? hope u know that mansons dont believe in Christ a saviour.

        Kwekwe - October 21, 2012
        10:19

        • conspirance theorists, very interesting to read about, very wack

          dr dre - October 21, 2012
          13:02

    • Kwekwe, we know that where you come from in Luapula it is a taboo to be rich. Leave HH alone. He is a hard worker & he would have won elections ten-fold if tribalists like your folk remained in the Congo(the Ituri Forest).

      REASON - October 21, 2012
      10:30

      • WE ARE A SUPERIOR TRIBE TEN TIMES BETTER THAN. BOW BEFORE US OR YOU NEVER SET YOUR CHUNSU IN STATE HOUSE.

        Kwekwe - October 21, 2012
        12:53

        • idiot

          couger - October 21, 2012
          14:19

  43. Shetani pastor,wat does the bible say about divorce?does it allow u to marry whilst ur wife iz alive?we hule we sungafye umwanaobe thers nothing like demon apa,unless niwe wamupele same demon.Mwasebanya ulukuta lwakwalesa mwemwambwa mwe atase.

    MOJO - October 21, 2012
    09:35

  44. This pipo don’t think streight.how can a normal person negrect his own?he needs to b purnished together with his freind HH.the rumour has it that he has also abandoned his 2 children in the village at balechema ing’ombe.

    Don - October 21, 2012
    09:32

    • ‘Straight’…. and ‘Neglect’

      Cry my beloved Country - October 21, 2012
      15:28

  45. Simple advice to the man of God,just be responsible and lead your life by example.live what you preach throughout your life.

    Jackson Kasongo - October 21, 2012
    09:23

  46. Just charge the bastard prophet for child neglegency imwe ba buju

    Mujahideen - October 21, 2012
    09:11

  47. EVEN DE PIPO WHO GO TO DIS CHURCHES ARE EQUALLY FOOOLISH,HW CAN A DIVORCEE PREACH TO ME? USELESSS SON OF SATAN……………..

    samz - October 21, 2012
    09:09

  48. stupid useless pastor,who do u think gona take care of yo child?u ar an idiot,just the name of yo ministry suggest a lot about.u ar a shame to humankind fool!

    mulo - October 21, 2012
    08:55

  49. Silly so-called Pastor. What demonic forces? You are the demon yourself. Have you ever met a demon before? Next time you do, look at him clearly and you will see yourself in the demon’s face. That demon is you. Just look after your sibling. You brought him into this world and it is your responsibility to look after him until he is mature (21 years old).

    Ba PF Mwala Ponoka Nomba - October 21, 2012
    08:36

  50. wHAT HAPPENED TO THE OLD WIFE. THE BIBLE SAYA ONLY ON ACCOUNT OF PROMISCUITY. SO SINCE YOU STILL THE PASTOR, IT MEANS YOUR WIFE WAS THE ONE BEING BONKED BY OTHER PIPO AND U HAD EVIDENCE? JUST THINKING LOUD.

    Mpangula Mputyu - October 21, 2012
    08:20